Tuesday, September 8, 2015

Difficult Passages in Gatsby

Hi Everyone:

In our first days of class, I suggested that the most difficult or seemingly odd scenes in a book can often be a route to some of the book's deepest meaning.  We also noted that The Great Gatsby is unique in how restrained and mysterious the language of the text can be.

In this blog post, describe the strange scene that you selected and (using your notes) explain how this scene may connect to one of the conflicts or tensions that we noted in class.  You can also write about why the scene is so different or unusual -- what sets it apart?  You can speculate or offer several alternative interpretations; keep in mind that you are not expected to explain precisely and definitively what everything means, as long as you offer some possibilities and impressions.  Look at the "Advice for Annotation" page for guidance.

This post is due on Thursday.

27 comments:

  1. The object or scene which I have selected would be the green light on Daisy's porch which could be seen from Gatsby's house. Throughout the novel, this light is mentioned a few times, and could be a symbol of greed and the desire to attain money and possessions in a way that is quick and easy. Gatsby himself is an example by the way he became a bootlegger to make money quickly, despite it being illegal so that he could win over Daisy's love. By focusing on himself and his wants, he didn't take into consideration the fact that he could be breaking the law or being unjust. Another interpretation of the light could be this unattainable and perfect dream that Gatsby had imagined. Like the light, no matter how far he reaches or strives to attain it, it's too far to grasp. Daisy represents this dream of Gatsby's and is the one and only thing Gatsby has been going after for his whole life. Whether it meant doing illegal activity to make being with Daisy a reality, or doing whatever he could to have Daisy as his wife, it was all something that was impossible due to the circumstances of each character. The light could also represent the path or compass that leads Gatsby to this dream that he has in mind, but we all know that it is ultimately not in Gatsby's favor for him to be with Daisy at the end. Although there are many other interpretations of this green light, these were a few that I found made sense to me. (:

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  2. The most important scene in “The Great Gatsby” is definitely Gatsby’s death and the hours leading up to it. After Tom’s wife accidentally kills his mistress in an ironic turn of events, the character’s lives are thrown out of balance. Tom’s double life has vanished, and Daisy is caught between her two lovers. Even Gatsby’s convictions are shaken by the accident. He truly believed that Daisy never loved Tom; that she would leave him in a heartbeat. But once Daisy fails to admit she never loved her husband, Gatsby is broken. One of the only securities in his world has weakened. He then goes on to recount the circumstances of their relationship before the war to Nick. Gatsby tells him how “In various unrevealed capacities he had come in contact with such people, but always with indiscernible barbed wire between. He found her excitingly desirable. He went to her house, at first with other officers from Camp Taylor, then alone. It amazed him” (Fitzgerald 131-132). In other words, Gatsby is fascinated by Daisy’s status and wealth, not so much her actual personality. His obsession with the upper class and opportunity to join this exclusive world obscures his definition of love. He sees her as a beautiful mansion and a lavish lifestyle rather than another human being. In the end, Gatsby equates wealth with Daisy, and ultimately wealth with love. His dishonest past also catches up to him, as well as Daisy and Tom’s. Gatsby was a bootlegger who was willing to break the law for wealth. Tom led another life with his mistress, and Daisy did nothing about it. Her shallow ways led her to value wealth and status above loyalty. Ultimately, both Tom and Daisy lose their lovers, and Gatsby loses his life. This part of the book shows that no matter how much you try to cheat life, no matter how thick your wallet is, sin’s consequences will always catch up to you.

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  4. One of the scenes in "The Great Gatsby" that I found interesting was when Gatsby and Daisy hit Myrtle with their car. I think this scene was significant because Tom had already been suspecting of Gatsby and him having a criminal past. Tom knew it had to have been Daisy and Gatsby who hit Myrtle making him believe that Gatsby even more untrustworthy. What Tom doesn't know is that Gatsby was not driving but he still took the blame for Daisy. This shows Gatsby's love for Daisy and that he would sacrifice himself for her. It also shows that Gatsby desperately needs Daisy's love and attention because that night he ordered Daisy to tell Tom she never loved home. Gatsby needed to know that Daisy had always felt something for Him and that she loved him. After this Daisy and Tom went inside to talk and Gatsby would not leave Daisy there alone. Even though Daisy had locked herself in her room Gatsby did not trust Tom alone with her. This shows his overwhelming protection and love for Daisy considering he would have waited all night to be sure Daisy was safe.This car scene was very important because I think it showed Gatsby as his true self and not just some rich powerful man.

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  5. The scene where Gatsby arranged a meeting with Daisy at Nick's house was a very unusual and significant scene. In this scene, Gatsby arranges a situation in which he can meet with Daisy, but act as if the meeting is a coincidence. Gatsby requests that Nick invites Daisy to his house for tea. When Daisy shows up, Gatsby walks into Nick's house pretending he did not know that Daisy was there. Even though Gatsby moved to West Egg five years earlier in order to be close to Daisy, it took him five years to finally make an attempt to see Daisy. This scene seems to show Gatsby's need to control things, and make strategic, complicated plans in order to reach his goals. Instead of just calling Daisy, going to visit, or inviting her to his house, Gatsby puts together this complex plan to make a "chance" meeting with Daisy, but prevent Daisy from knowing what his or Nick's intentions are. The book gives the impression that Gatsby tends to make his life and his plans very complex and secretive. The tea scene illustrates Gatsby's complex and secretive thought process, and shows his intense an unusual personality. This trait of Gatsby's is very important throughout the book, and is probably one of the main reasons Gatsby is mostly alone in his life, with no friends other than Nick.

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  7. Though there are many significant parts in the book “The Great Gatsby”, the scene that is the most strange to me is the scene where Gatsby and Daisy meet for tea at Nick's House. This scene is Gatsby’s first real interaction with Daisy in many years and, with how good it went, confirms Gatsby’s hopes of finally being with her. To Daisy, at first, this was a very emotional experience but then she realized that Gatsby could be back in her life and enjoyed the rest of the day with him. When Nick exits the room and leaves Daisy and Gatsby alone, this gives them time to talk in private and reminisce. This could be interpreted as the short period of time of their long lost love that starts to stir up as the book progresses. As this scene goes on and Nick enters back into their presence, it could be showing a foreshadowing of Tom Buchannan, Daisy’s husband, being an interruption or a blocking object in Gatsby’s and Daisy’s so called “relationship”. This scene is a very crucial part to the book that gives the readers various interpretations and the true revealing of the strange love between Gatsby and Daisy.

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  8. In my opinion there is plenty of confusing scenes in the book “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald, there is a lot of scenes that seem to have no relation to the story. One of the scenes that I found confusing was the library scene at one of Gatsby’s parties. In the scene Jordan and Nick had attended one of Gatsby’s famous parties, they had just met Gatsby and when he disappeared they went up to Gatsby’s “high gothic library”. In the library was an old man who was fascinated with the books in the library, I’m not really sure why he was so impressed that the books were real.. Why was this man who was not named, surprised that the books were real? What did this scene have to do with anything in the book? Maybe this scene was just an introduction to this man because he appears not invited to Gatsby’s funeral at the end of the book, maybe he knew Gatsby. The man with the owl eyed glasses said that he was drunk and that maybe being in the library would sober him up. So I “know” why he was in there, I say “know” because I’m not sure if he was telling the truth. He seemed to be surprised and proud of Gatsby’s library, I thought about it and an old friend of Gatsby’s by the name of Dan Cody came to mind. What if this old man was actually Gatsby’s best friend coming to check on him and being proud of Gatsby’s success? We didn’t get too much of a background on Dan so maybe he didn’t die, maybe Dan heard of one of Gatsby’s parties and decided to pay his old friend a visit.This would explain why he wasn’t partying with everyone else, he could have been waiting for Gatsby in the library to reunite with him privately, this also explains why he attended Gatsby’s funeral at the end. I could be wrong, the man in the library could of been just a guest at the party who had nothing to do with the story, but why would he show up at Gatsby’s funeral at the end if he didn’t know Gatsby? The man could’ve also been one of Gatsby’s old business partners back when Gatsby owned drugstores. I also think that the fascination with the books being real and actually having pages was a symbol of Gatsby’s success. Gatsby’s house was real, his money was real, and the man being fascinated by books when he was in a big house makes no sense unless the books showed that Gatsby succeeded, his success was real and the books showed that.

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  9. I believe that an important scene in The Great Gatsby, is the scene when Tom and Daisy Buchanan’s daughter, Pammy, is introduced. This is important because Daisy’s treatment of her daughter mirrors her personality. Daisy uses Pammy as an accessory, like she does with the other people in her life. She treats Pammy as an object of attention. Daisy is sought to be a carefree, beautiful young woman. As the story progresses, she is revealed to be a cold cynic who masks the pain she feels from her husband’s infidelity with a superficial attitude. Daisy also divulges herself when she chooses Tom over Gatsby in chapter seven. She is vain and bored with her life. When Pammy first appears Daisy is lounging on the couch with her friends and husband as the nanny and Pammy walk through. This scene could also be a reflection of how Daisy grew up, a wealthy family with a young daughter who will be taught to be dependant on others. Instead of waiting for Gatsby, a man whom she loved, Daisy chose to marry Tom because of his wealthy aristocratic background, whose money could fund her desire for expensive things. The treatment of Daisy’s child gives a deeper view of Daisy’s personality.

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  10. There are many strange and important scenes in the “Great Gatsby”, but the Funeral Scene was the most ironic and strange to me. You would think Gatsby's funeral would be filled with all kinds of people, yet only a handful showed up. Which is very contradicting. Throughout the story you read of Gatsby’s lavish, enormous parties filled with many souls, yet when he dies only a few people cared. Nick, A few servants, Gatsby’s father and Owl eyes were the only people attending the funeral. This goes to show how strange these characters are. The whole book is about the romance and love story between Gatsby and Daisy yet she doesn’t even bother coming to her lover's funeral. Throughout that scene you also get to see the people who saw more than just money in Gatsby such as Nick. Nick later tells us how he believes the East ruined and completely demolished Daisy’s morals, which is believable considering she didn’t even have the respect to send a letter/condolences nor attend the funeral. This scene makes you think of what friends are actually there for, you or what you have.

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  11. The scene that confused me the most is the pool scene where Gatsby dies and the following day where Nick tries to find somebody for Gatsby. What first confused me was when Nick goes down to the pool. The book is pretty clear that there was conflict and blood in the pool. But I wasn’t sure who was the victim. I thought Wilson was the only one who died. “It was after we started with Gatsby toward the house that the gardener saw Wilson’s body a little way off in the grass, and the holocaust was complete.”(Page 162). This line led me to believe that Nick walked off towards the house with Gatsby who was not dead, and Wilson was the only one who lay dead in the lawn. Also in the next chapter when Nick envisions Gatsby talking to him I thought he was actually talking to him. It wasn’t until later in the chapter when Nick specifically states that Gatsby is dead did I realize that he was indeed dead. Also the day Gatsby was shot in his pool was the only day he used the pool that summer, even though he mentions wanting to use it with Nick a few times. Maybe his pool represents something, like bad luck or greed. It wouldn’t be odd considering this is the biggest event in the book.

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  12. The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald consists of many confusing and seemingly insignificant scenes that in actuality relate to some of the book’s core meanings. The scene that I find most odd would be when Nick and Jordan meet a man described as “owl-eyed” in Gatsby’s library while they were in search of Gatsby himself. This man who they immediately determine is drunk is fixated on Gatsby’s books and clearly surprised by the fact that they are real. Through further examination the man discovers that the pages are not cut. This scene connects to one of the main conflicts in the book which is unraveling the truth about Gatsby. This scene occurs before Nick has met Gatsby therefore he is still a mystery. The most important part of this scene is the fact that the pages are uncut. This means that although the books are real there is no way that Gatsby has read them. This implies that Gatsby is a man of appearances more than a man of the truth. He has real books in his library to give off the impression that he is a well educated and well read person which is most likely not true. It allows you to speculate that more things than Gatsby’s books are untrue and perhaps everything about him is merely a perception not reality. This conflict of perception versus reality becomes a reoccurring issue in the novel. From this scene the mystery of Jay Gatsby intensifies adding to the mysterious vibe that is carried out throughout the book.

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  13. After Gatsby’s death, people immediately seemed to just move on, except Nick. This was strange because everyone loved to be around Gatsby when he had big parties at his house. Going to Gatsby’s parties was a way to increase social status, and this is the reason people attended them, they didn’t actually care about Gatsby. Immediately after he died, Mr. Wolfsheim, who was Gatsby’s associate in the “drugstore” business, made up an excuse as to why he could not be at the funeral: “I cannot come down now as I am tied up in some very important business and cannot get mixed up in this thing now.” (p. 129) Mr. Wolfsheim also seemed to be a close friend, but once Gatsby was of no further use to him, he moved on. The book revolves around people being very selfish, most of what they did was to benefit themselves or make themselves wealthier. Nick also seems to make Gatsby’s death about him. He explains how he thinks he owes Gatsby something, to find him somebody. He also thought it was his responsibility to arrange the funeral, just because they were friends. Nick states, “I found myself on Gatsby’s side, and alone.” (p. 128) He thinks he was the only one who cared about Gatsby, and he was important because of that.

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  14. In the story The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald there are many odd scenes. The scene I chose was when Nick and Jordan meet the man with owl-eyed glasses in Gatsby's library. When they encounter the man, he is looking over the books. The man tells them that the book are actually real. He is obviously surprised by this fact. He then goes on to tell them about how he checked to see if they were cardboard but that they were real and had real pages. He then states that he is very drunk. This scene happened after Nick heard all these stories about Gatsby and before he actually meets him. So at this point in the story, Gatsby is a mysterious character that seems almost too magnificent to be true. Enough information has been presented for us as readers to know that something isn't completely true about him. I find it quite fitting that the man in the glasses is suspicious of Gatsby, including the books in his library. What set this scene apart to me was that it started the whole theme of Gatsby not being completely truthful and hiding something.

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  15. The party scene in chapter three was a very memorable moment from "The Great Gatsby" by F. Scott Fitzgerald. Firstly, this is the first place in the book where we get to see somewhat of who Mr. Gatsby is. He was a very mysterious character at this point and still was even after the party, but it revealed him enough to interest me as the reader and the character in the story of who he was. Nick even thought to himself a very important thing which represents this, “It was one of those rare smiles with a quality of eternal reassurance in it, that you may come across four or five times in life.” This doesn’t reveal too much about Mr. Gatsby except for the fact that he has a rare type of smile which could in fact show a lot about his personality and character, but primarily the fact that his smile was enough for Nick to make good judgements of him is amazing. Furthermore, the scene at the party was also one of the first places that Nick thinks something actually good about a person which just so happens to be Mr. Gatsby. To Nick’s surprise he isn’t who he thought he was when he says to Jordan, “I had expected that Mr. Gatsby would be a florid and corpulent person in his middle years.” This shows Nick’s standard of what he thinks of people in this area and how Mr. Gatsby already surprises him with the impression that he made on him. Lastly, Mr. Gatsby not only interests the reader about who he is, but he ends up getting Nick to question who he is as a person which represents another memorable part of this scene. Nick even goes as far to asks Jordan if she knew anything more about when he says, “Who is he? I demanded. Do you know? He’s just a man named Gatsby. Where is he from, I mean? And what does he do?” Nick being this curious about who he is was a key moment showing the built up tension because of just how much everyone wants to know more about him especially after the first glimpse of who he was. The first time this scene is read it is bound to leave the reader with some sort of question or general idea about Mr. Gatsby even though very little was actually stated about him showing just how major of an impact he can leave on a person in such a short period of time.

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  16. In the book “The Great Gatsby” there are many strange and peculiar scenes that occur in the book. One of the strangest scenes that really stuck out to me was the scene with the green light. This light could symbolize many things in the book. The light could symbolize the love Gatsby has for Daisy. He can see the light but he can’t get close enough to touch it and this may be how he feels around Daisy. In the book Nick is looking out into the distance and sees Gatsby reaching towards the green light as if his desires and what he wants to accomplish are Daisy. Also the green light could symbol greed and hope. Hope can be symbolized by the light because of everyone’s hopes in the book and also Gatsby’s hope to get Daisy back. It could be symbolized by greed because everyone in town wanted to be wealthy and have money. They didn’t care about others around them they just wanted money and wealth. The green light is one of the strange scenes that stick out to me and made me think about what the green light actually symbolized.

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  17. In the Great Gatsby, Gatsby’s Rolls-Royce car was mentioned often and described in detail. Since cars are often used as a symbol of status, I believe that Gatsby’s car can be thought of as his success and desire for more. It is ironic that Daisy drove the car, thinking that it would benefit her, but in the end it would only lead to the downfall of the relationships of everyone around her. Myrtle, who was attracted to Tom because of his lifestyle, was killed by it. Gatsby’s life was ended because he let his love for what was not his take the lead.

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  18. One of the scenes that confused me from "The Great Gatsby" was when Nick first met Gatsby at a party. When Nick was asking the other guests about the host, they did not have much to say. All they really knew were myths or stories they had heard about him. Most people had not even met, spoke to, or seen Gatsby before. Everyone just showed up at his house, uninvited, and had a huge celebration for no reason. Something else that was off about this scene, was when Nick was sent an invitation and nobody else there was. While all this was going on, Nick starts to have a conversation with somebody he thought to be a stranger. When he brings a question up about who Gatsby actually is and if anybody had actually seen him, he is stopped in his tracks when he discovers the person he is speaking with is Gatsby himself. I had to ask myself, why did Gatsby reveal himself to Nick? What made him so special? This scene was full of irony because everyone had suspicions that Gatsby may not have been real or even be alive, but next thing you know, Gatsby is introducing himself to Nick. This scene was one of many peculiar scenes in "The Great Gatsby".

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  20. One of the seemingly odd scenes that took place throughout the book "The Great Gatsby" was the incomprehensible occupation of Gatsby. In one of the rare moments between the two main characters, Jay Gatsby and Nick Carraway, Gatsby reminisces on his past. He gets into some the mysterious details of how he came to such financial success. Digging deeper, Gatsby talks of the time that he saved the wealthy copper mogul, Dan Cody from drowning off his yacht. In return for saving his life, the young “Jay Gatz” becomes Dan Cody’s right hand man. Though upon the death of his good friend, as Gatsby tells, he was left with a nominal amount of his inheritance. Which was nowhere near the amount he seemed to obtain. Prior to this discussion between the two neighbors, Gatsby had always spoke of how he inherited his money as “My family all died and I came into great deal of money”. As we find out later in the book that in fact his “family out in the mid-west of San Francisco” were not dead, as his parents were upset at the news of his death. The question that remained unanswered for me throughout the book was, Where did Jay Gatsby’s money truly come from?

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  21. The scene from the book, “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald, that I thought was most contradicting was Gatsby's funeral scene. At the end of the book it was very odd to me that very few people showed up to his funeral. I figured that tons of people would attend because of the amount of people that went to his parties. Nick tried to convince as many people as possible to come but no one listened. The only people who attended Gatsby's funeral were Nick, Owl Eyes, a few servants, and Gatsby’s father, Henry C. Gatz, who has come all the way from Minnesota. I wondered why very few people showed up. I came to the conclusion that the people that went to his parties weren’t there for him. They were there for a good time and only knew him for his money. Nick on the other hand, was one of the very few people that went to the parties for him and was a real friend towards Gatsby rather than just for his money. Throughout the book, “The Great Gatsby” there were many strange scenes like Gatsby's funeral but this one specifically stood out to me.

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  22. It was a quiet, eerie evening and Gatsby waited attentively for the signal. Hours went by, the night waned on, but still no sign appeared. There was not even a slight flicker of brightness in Daisy’s house. The home was pitch black except for her restroom. Much like the green light on Daisy’s porch, the bathroom light had symbolic meaning behind it.
    This glow represented Gatsby’s hope of being with Daisy. Earlier in the day, Daisy killed Tom’s mistress in a driving accident, and Gatsby feared Tom would retaliate by harming her. If Daisy were in danger of being hurt, she would flash streaks of brightness into the night sky to alert Gatsby. Gatsby seemed to rely on the signal as reassurance that Daisy would leave Tom to be with him. He was insecure about the love Daisy felt for him, which is why he previously demanded for her to deny ever loving Tom. In this scene it is evident how much Gatsby truly loves Daisy and how he is hopelessly devoted to her. This is why when the light was never flashed, Gatsby felt so shaken. At four o’clock in the morning, when Daisy finally turned the light off, an emptiness filled Gatsby’s heart.
    Even Nick could detect the vibe of loneliness, “His house never seemed so enormous to me as it did that night”(147). The extravagant mansion Gatsby bought for him and Daisy to live together in was now a depressing reminder of the woman he lost. Daisy chose Tom over Gatsby for her own selfish purposes.
    Unlike Gatsby, Daisy was more concerned with her own needs, so she made a mutual agreement with Tom, and did not intend to include Gatsby in it. She was only worried about getting herself out of trouble for killing Tom’s lover, and would let Gatsby take the fatal blow if it meant continuing to live with an excess of luxury. This scene ultimately reveals Gatsby’s reliance upon Daisy, and Daisy’s belief that material possessions are more satisfying than selfless love.

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  24. The novel “The Great Gatsby” By F.Scott Fitzgerald is full of odd and confusing scenes. One of the most peculiar scenes is when Nick first met Gatsby at the party. Nick spent a lot of time at the party trying to find Gatsby but, he couldn't find him anywhere so, eventually Nick gave up. All of a sudden Nick finds himself talking to a young man that suddenly reveals himself as Gatsby. Nick tells Gatsby “This is an unusual party. I haven't even seen the host” when infact the host is sitting right beside Nick. Directly after that Gatsby reveals himself. A major question is why didn’t Gatsby reveal himself earlier? Did he do this purposely to seem mysterious? This is certainly an odd introduction for Nick. Before Nick meets Gatsby at the party he listens to some rumors and stories people have made up about Gatsby. People tell Nick all kinds of strange thing about Gatsby “Somebody told me they thought he killed a man once”. Since people don’t know much about Gatsby’s past Gatsby comes off as a mysterious man which is why people like to gossip about him. At first I was wondering why Gatsby gave Nick a formal invite to his party. Most of the characters in the book don't get an invite they just show up to his party. But in the book you find out that Gatsby invited Nick because Nick was Daisy's cousin. Gatsby wanted to use Nick to get closer to Daisy. In this scene Gatsby is presented as a very mysterious man and from this point the story really begins to get interesting.

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  25. Although “The Great Gatsby” by F. Scott Fitzgerald had many confusing scenes the one I found most confusing and strange was the scene about Gatsby's funeral. I found the scene strange because it contrasted what I would have thought to happen. At Gatsby's funeral only a few family and friends attended whereas at his parties he was accompanied by hundreds of people. It showed how much he was used for his wealth and how much his guest only cared for him when he was among the living. All of his life Gatsby worked hard for his wealth and relished in it with all of his vast parties but once he died I would have expect more people to show up and pay their respect to their generous host. One guest who did show up was the owl man from the library. I was confused at why the author chose to have him attend among all the other important characters why did Fitzgerald choose for him to be there. The scene showed how you may have many friends but what really matters is who your true friends are.

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  26. A very weird and memorable scene in the Book "The Great Gatsby" by F. Scott Fitzgerald was a particular scene in chapter five. In this scene Mr. Gatsby shows a confusing and also creepy personality which made me feel slightly uncomfortable as the reader. In this scene, Mr. Gatsby creepily approached Nick as he was walking home from across his yard asking Nick to go to Coney Island and then later for swim in his pool. It seemed like Mr. Gatsby was very desperate to get Nicks attention and spend time with him when he really just wants to spend time with Daisy. This confuses me in the end because the reunion with her begins awkward and then gets better once Mr. Gatsby shows all of his english cars and riches. Does Fitzgerald make this happen to present her as a gold digger to the reader or is she just a character that becomes really emotional when it comes to expensive items? In my opinion, in there reunion she should have paid more attention to him as a person instead of his wealth. Overall as the reader, when I see this it leaves me with a bad feeling about this character but also leaves me confused because I cannot determine if she is putting on an act in this scene or if that is just this characters personality.

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  27. While reading "The Great Gatsby" by F. Scott Fitzgerald many scenes stood out to me , however one scene in particular left an impression stronger than the others. In the first chapters of the book the reader is only exposed to the gossip that Nick hears, leaving Gatsby as an enigma. The introduction of Gatsby at his party forced me to see Gatsby as an ordinary man, not the unspoken mystery I made him out to be. Meeting Gatsby was revelating and exciting. Nicks description of him was vivid and enticing " It was one of those rare smiles with a quality of eternal reassurance in it...". This scene was one of my favorites because there is so much tension building up to it , meeting the great Gatsby.

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